This may seem like a no-brainer here, but apparently it’s not. In this day and age of smoking bans, light bulb laws and calls for socialized medicine, it’s become painfully apparent that the people have lost their way.
So now it’s time to do a little reeducation.
The lesson that needs to be re-taught is the fact that the government is not here to help you. They are not an omnipotent power. They are not a power for good. They are not even all that smart. They do what is best for them, not you, and their underlying goal is more power.
Since I don’t want to get too far off topic, I’m simply going to apply this to smoking bans; although the concept can be applied unilaterally to nearly any other topic.
So, when it comes to smoking bans, why isn’t the government here to help you?
I hear the argument all the time. Nearly every day in fact. The government is doing what is best for us. They’re banning smoking to protect us. They’re only doing the right thing. Blah blah blah.
Really?
Have any of these people stopped to think about this? Have any of them stopped and realized that the only reason the government is involved in this battle and siding with the anti-tobacco nuts is because it works in their favor?
I have.
Let’s put this in perspective though. What is the overwhelming goal of government? To expand and grow its power and control. It’s a well-known fact and perhaps something that those in government doesn’t even realize they’re doing (although I suspect the vast majority do). The Founding Fathers of this nation realized this and Framed our government to help protect against such things. However, over time people have found and manipulated ways around the Constitution and have managed to grow and expand the government and exert power and control over the people in blunt violation to what the Framers intended.
As we speak, there are two prime offenders to freedom: one is environmentalism, the other is public health and the fallacy of “protecting us from ourselves.” Air pollution not withstanding, smoking bans fall under the latter of those two tools of control, and as a whole we should not be happy about this.
The anti-tobacco advocates, while perhaps good intentioned at one time, have become unwitting tools of government. They preach the values of “public health” and “saving us from ourselves” and do the dirty work of government. After all, who needs a ministry of propaganda when you have scores of zealots who will do it for you. The anti-tobacco crowd builds government power and undermines the concepts of a free nation as defined in our Constitution all in one swift motion.
But they don’t get it. They see the government as their friend and see their cause as right and just because the government says they are right. Need I point out the flaw in this logic? The government, by default, will side with any cause that nets them more control over the population. This is not rocket science. This is basic government systems 101.
So why don’t they get it? Because it’s a win-win situation and human nature is to be blinded by one’s own victory. They are winning the battle but losing the war, yet they can’t see past their own ego to realize this. All they see is that they got their way. Everything else is either irrelevant or inconsequential. The problem to face here not the anti-tobacco victory, it is the fact that they don’t understand that they are being used by the government to accumulate more power.
I’m not writing this as a conspiracy theory, I’m writing this as a wake-up call. This is truth plain and simple and those of us who care enough to open our eyes to what’s going on in the big picture understand that public health is being used to do exactly that which our Founding Fathers warned us against!
So just remember, the next time that anybody claims that the government is forcing smoking bans on us because they’re in our best interest you should remind them that the only thing that the government can do that is in our best interest where smoking bans are concerned is to allow us to live free and make our own choices. Anything else is just a power grab.
Cross posted from BtBWI
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You do realize that this DOES come off sounding like a conspiracy theory right? At the very least it’s how conspiracy theories start.
Anyway, the smoking thing has been argued out imo. It was fun but it’s really getting kind of tired and old. You did touch on environmentalism, maybe we should debate that now…though I am on your side on that issue so we’d have to depend on someone else to debate the other side.
“What is the overwhelming goal of government?”
It is more basic than that. The nature of power is to seek outlets for growth. Much like absolute power corrupts absolutely, also power that is less than absolute seeks to grow greater.
Why? Well if you’ve ever been in charge of a project you know that no matter how much power you were given inevitably frustration arose because you lacked the power to force a coworker to do their share, or to cut the red tape, or to do one of any number of things you thought were essential to your project. Government doesn’t differ. Thank God for the Bill of Rights, which stand athwart the tracks of government growth and yells halt.
I love it when Conservatives fall out of their rocking chairs and go into “Lecture Mode” by pontificating on what they’ve decided on a time to “educate” the stupid masses.
You’re quote:
So now it’s time to do a little reeducation.
The lesson that needs to be re-taught is the fact that the government is not here to help you. They are not an omnipotent power. They are not a power for good. They are not even all that smart. They do what is best for them, not you, and their underlying goal is more power.
Since I don’t want to get too far off topic, I’m simply going to apply this to smoking bans; although the concept can be applied unilaterally to nearly any other topic.
Now that you’ve got the huka-pipe hot and the belly-dancers behind you, could you enlighten us on how much we’re all supposed to despise the government, treat it with derision and hold it accountable as suspect for idiocy and stupidity?
You’ve taken a single issue, and successfully transformed it into a broad stroke to include all of government, all in an effort to go off tub-thumping on how we’re to reject our government, hate it and treat it as suspect.
Your words: “They are not a power for good”, and”They are not even all that smart. They do what is best for them…and not you….and they’re un…” Really? Are those thoughts you puked out on your keyboard? Or are those thoughts you’ve twirled around in your dime-sized brain for a few hours before you sat down and began to hammer them out?
Perhaps you’re simply blowing hot air out of your ass in order to feel accepted in a Reagan Republican waste-dump of forgotten ideologies and failed theories like “Trickle Down Economics”? Lint-balls of thought you’ve plucked out of your belly-button hoping to attract attention to your blog while swirling in the midst of a media frenzy that’s become fed-up with Republican ideology..?
Cut to the chase: Lest you argue about my own blow-hard tub-thumping…
Let’s apply some abstract form of socialized government that you might include in your argument. “Government isn’t that smart”…”Government isn’t there to help you”, the “government is only available to serve itself”.
Let’s create a mental construct where your argument might apply. Some basic moment when you might need the services of your government…
Let’s try: “Your house is robbed… Your family’s personal treasures are stolen. It’s a terrifying moment in your lives, for all of your family…Everybody is upset. Things are missing, the Living Room is a mess… the Safe has been broke open…The kids are crying, the wife is worried…it’s chaos everywhere..”
Simple enough? Good!!
You dial 9-1-1, a socialized government program, who will send out (tax-payer) police officers. A report paid for by (my) the tax-payer dollars will be written and more tax money will be spent on detectives and police captains who will collaborate evidence that will be collated by the socialized sponsored program of a prosecuting attorney who will, hopefully, try the case in a court of law in front of a jury box filled by people who will be paid by tax payer funds for their time to hear the case.
Tracking so far?!
According to your argument: “the fact that the government is not here to help you. They are not an omnipotent power. They are not a power for good. They are not even all that smart. They do what is best for them, not you, and their underlying goal is more power.”
Those are your words; No?
I’m going to have to agree. Pardon my irony here, but I really couldn’t give a Toot about your lame-assed robbed house. And, as far as I’m concerned, I think all of us in this community have spent far too much in bull-shit tax dollars on a government program that is not here to help you. They are not an omnipotent power. They are not a power for good. They are not even all that smart. They do what is best for them, not you, and their underlying goal is more power.
Pretty lame argument there Buddy… Not making a lot of close friends with your local police department, let alone the fire department, city hall, the garbage truck drivers, school teachers, principals and superintendents and I would be willing to include: Your local librarians.
(Hint: Do shoot your mouth off about how much you hate our government in front of librarians, cops, fire fighters and the city manager… In fact: I encourage you to register for your 2009 dog-tags and tell the government worker how stupid he, or she is, and how you don’t trust that person because they “aren’t even that smart”. )
I can only guess: On the Fourth of July, you wave a dish-towel…Because the “government” shouldn’t be trusted enough for you to wave the American Flag. You’re words: They shouldn’t be trusted…They’re not even that smart! …They are not a power for good! The do what is best for them…and not you… Their goal is more power!!” Go on ahead, Boss Man: Salute that dish-towel. Salute it and be proud to salute it.
It’s the opposite that becomes the truth: You’re the one who shouldn’t be trusted. Because you’re the loose canon in your own neighborhood who would whine and complain about how much you hate our government, and our country, while your next door neighbor might be waiting for the fire marshal’s report on why her house burned down…or the family one block west of you who’s working with their kid’s 4th grade teacher on improving his reading skills.
Do you want to try other scenarios where you argument fails miserably? Go for it.
You’re the problem. It isn’t the government that “isn’t even that smart”!
It’s you! You’re the one who isn’t that smart.
You take your own broad-brush by accusing the government (of all the lame-blasted things) as the cause of your own personal hang-ups without thought to the reality behind those accusations. Whether you’re relying on burglar alarm systems, the IRS, the Minnesota DNR (fishing/deer hunting/turkey hunting) licensing bureau, MN DOT and bridges that won’t collapse and kill other fellow-Minnesotans; you think our government isn’t that smart. They’re doing their jobs because they want more power…
Posed in other words: Your neighbors no longer give a crap about how much you hate our country. We’re the ones snickering behind your back when you get robbed and start bitching how stupid you are!! Its your neighbors who are the EMT workers, the hospital nurses, the police responders. You can say on your blog that we’re not a power for good. That we’re not even all that smart!!!
Okay: We get it. You Republicans hate us! Are you done, yet?
Email me your local postal address, Boss Man!!! I have a dish towel I need to send you. The Fourth is only a few weeks from now. You’re going to need something to wave….
FF
It makes me smile, Fruitfly, that your head is still too far up your own ass to differentiate reality from your own bitter and angry world perspective.
For some reason you have a venomous hatred of Republicans; so much in fact that you don’t even know a Republican any more.
Yes, look at me! Big Bad Republican asshole, looking to make your life miserable!
Except there’s a problem with your little whining tirade here… I’m not a Republican.
Although don’t get me wrong, feel free to continue ranting. It amuses me to hear you try to justify your precious little government.
One question though. It it more comfortable for you to have no spine of your own? I’m just curious. I mean, you seem awfully pissed off, so I wouldn’t think that being a spineless puppet would be that pleasurable… But who knows? Maybe you derive some sort of perverted pleasure from it.
On to your points. The government has a function, and of course you hit on several of those points, albeit in a rather factitious manner. The government is here to protect us from one another, protect us from foreign enemies, and handle municipal duties (i.e. fire protection, police etc).
The government that you stump for is more like an overbearing nanny who thinks she runs the whole house but isn’t really capable of running her own life.
Let me fill you in on a little secret- the government is not supposed to be here to micromanage our lives. That is contrary to everything this country was founded upon.
Should I assume from the context of some of your wording that you are indeed a government employee? That’s all wonderful and all, but personally I would derive a great amount of pleasure in seeing you out of a job and having to contend with the real world out here. Ya know, no bloated pensions, Cadillac health care, union protection… I would love to see you work a real job.
See Fruitfly, you have it all wrong. I don’t hate the government. I hate the bloated, inefficient, overbearing and overzealous thing it has become. I hate that lawmakers think they know how to run the world even though most of them have never done anything with their lives but sit in a cushy office. I really hate that these people have the audacity to think that thy know how to run my life better than I do. After all, wouldn’t I really be the expert on running my life?
While that should be a rhetorical question, it isn’t. Sadly the government has mutated into something that doesn’t believe in my ability to function without wandering into traffic and killing myself. They have left the legitimate functions of government behind and gotten into the business of nannying. Of course, if you are weak and enjoy the fruits of this nannying (which your outburst here would lead us to believe that you do), why not defend it? After all, you have quite a bit to lose if you suddenly find yourself facing the real world without your coddling government to shelter you from reality and make your decisions for you.
I, on the other hand, put too much time and effort into serving this country so that I could live a free and enjoyable life to let babies like you come through and try to take even my most basic of rights away by advocating for this bloated and overzealous government.
The government isn’t here to support the people so they can be couch potatoes! http://goodtimepolitics.com/2008/05/17/the-new-radical-elites-party/
Flying fruit:
“You dial 9-1-1, a socialized government program, who will send out (tax-payer) police officers. A report paid for by (my) the tax-payer dollars will be written and more tax money will be spent on detectives and police captains who will collaborate evidence that will be collated by the socialized sponsored program of a prosecuting attorney who will, hopefully, try the case in a court of law in front of a jury box filled by people who will be paid by tax payer funds for their time to hear the case.”
Yea, the government that had my best interest in mind when all I needed was a hospital bed instead cost me three years of probabtion at tax payers expense.
Eight months of jail at tax payers expense when I hurt no one and stole nothing. As a result I was unemployed for those three years cuz no one wanted any part of me. But I did not hit the foodstamp line.
Parenting classes at tax payers expense due to a false police report.
Domestic violence courses at tax payers expense when I never laid a hand on anyone.
Court mandated treatment at tax payers expense when in the beggining of all this shit thats all I was trying to do was get to a hospital or detox.
And some brilliant court clerk accidentaly filled out a restraining order against me by a neighbor for a year when it was only supposed to be for a month. So consequently I was getting arressted every month for being in my own front yard, adding another 6 months to my prison time in a 1 year period.
The cost of all this was mind boggling compared to if the fuckin cop just took me to the hospital.
Blow it outcher ass fruit fly
The system of all government ’s is to control the people inside its borders.
But the fact is we inside the so called USA Have no borders and the fact is mexico is now in a civil war and the fact is we the people appear to just stand around and do nothing would make me think that our government has done its job of mass corruption of the ideals of freedom and mass overwhelming braninwashing of all people.
The mass political/race Indoctination will some day be the down fall of the ideals of 1776, sad for the kids of all races that will live inside a nation of traitors and mass torture with drug dealers running the show inside our once great government the pig Obama will be the start of hell inside this nation and most will love this pig for the evil he will do to you, that is why for over 50 years political/race brainwashing has been done to so many little kids. and may god help you all.
to mick2 our so called government is the ass fly and its eggs are in all our butts by the billions. so be good in the future new north america union and if you are not good its off to prison for life.
Yea well Fred, since my experience I think I’ve covered my ass pretty well.
With no help from the government.