I’m not sure what to say about this little chunck of insanity… Except maybe VIVA McDONALD’S!!
Mike Ivey: Should Madison ban the drive-through?
First it was a proposed ban on plastic bags.
Now, a member of the influential Madison Plan Commission wants to ban the restaurant drive-through — or at least restrict the ubiquitous symbol of America’s auto-centric lifestyle.
“Given the concern about all the carbon going into the atmosphere, I’m not sure we should be building more places for people to sit idling in their cars,” says Eric Sundquist, who was appointed to the citizen panel by Mayor Dave Cieslewicz this spring.
A former newspaper reporter in Atlanta now working as a researcher at the UW-Madison’s Center on Wisconsin Strategy, Sundquist notes that several cities in Canada have recently moved to ban the drive-through coffee shop or stand-alone fast food restaurant (www.ecospace.cc/culture/drive-thru-ban.htm).
“Bans haven’t gotten as far in the U.S., although I know San Luis Obispo, Calif., has one,” he says.
The issue came up last week during discussions over a conditional use permit for a new Starbucks coffee shop along a congested frontage road across from East Towne Mall.
The site at 4302 E. Washington Ave., in front of the Crowne Plaza Hotel, formerly housed the Frame Workshop retail store but has been vacant for more than a year. Property owner Tim Neitzel now wants to lease half of the 3,300 square foot retail building for a Starbucks that will also feature indoor and outdoor seating.
To facilitate the drive-through, developers are using a portion of the Crowne Plaza parking lot. Drivers picking up their morning coffee will have to make a circle route through the property to avoid potential traffic backups.
But nearby business owners are concerned about bringing more cars through the already congested intersection of East Washington and Continental Lane. The owner of a gas station on the frontage road said it’s not uncommon for cars to wait through three traffic signal cycles to get across East Washington.
East Towne area Ald. Joe Clausius admitted the intersection is a problem and said with the Starbucks it “could get very backed up.” Still, he said the corridor is badly in need of some redevelopment.
“I’m constantly getting peppered with questions from people about what is happening there and when will it happen,” he says.
City officials have given their lukewarm support to the Starbucks, which is scheduled for a November opening. They say it could help create a more pedestrian-friendly atmosphere near the Crowne Plaza.
“While many future customers will likely be driving automobiles, hotel guests and residents to the north represent a potential walking customer,” says city planner Heather Stouder.
Sundquist is planning to bring the issue up before the city’s Long Range Transportation Planning Commission on which he also serves.
“I know a ban might be difficult so a better approach might be to restrict them,” he says, noting an ordinance in Davis, Calif., puts a number of restrictions on drive-throughs, including one relating to air pollution.















This is so incredibly stupid. I think it’s time for a revolt.
The sad thing is I made this same comment to a coffee shop girl 6 months ago. She was complaining about cigerette smoke at the drive through and “tongue and cheek” I said yet she never complains about the car exhause. God I hope I didnt start this crap.
I know what an individual rights fan you are so I had to pass this one on.
The Supreme Court rules 5-4, with Anton Scalia writing the opinion:
Answering a 127-year old constitutional question, the Supreme Court ruled on Thursday that the Second Amendment protects an individual right to have a gun, at least in one’s home. The Court, splitting 5-4, struck down a District of Columbia ban on handgun possession.
http://veritasvincitprolibertate.wordpress.com/2008/06/26/victory-for-the-second-amendment/
I dont know if I resent Starbucks or the ban on the drive through more.
It is amazing how silly people are getting over climate change. Wow.
Yea, California or Oregon or some place wants to ban roasting marshmallows.
I’m not joking.
Just took a look, my mistake, it was Seattle, so whats the difference ?
http://www.fourwinds10.com/siterun_data/environment/pollution/news.php?q=1213206192
“perhaps you saw that officials in Seattle are meeting tomorrow to discuss whether to ban campfires to save the planetfrom global warming.”
Damnit, Camel! See what happens when you use sarcasm with complete idiots? You give them silly ideas that they latch on to!
Oh well. I guess I can forgive you since you support smoking
Thanks, veritasvincitprolibertate, that is good news indeed!! I feel the urge to go out and buy another gun to celebrate
Micky, I would go with Starbucks just because they’re representative of the puckered asshole movement in America. If it wasn’t for the pretentious latte crowd in their Priuses and canvas shopping bags, we wouldn’t even be talking about a ban on drive throughs.
And yes! I heard about that shit in Seattle. Who in their eff’n mind believes that campfires and roasting marshmallows on a beach contributes to global warming??
Next thing you know the U.N. will ask that everyone in the world tone down all the extra activity lest they produce too much CO2 from all that heavy breathing.